Well its been a little over a week since wiping my hard drive with a program used by the dept of defense and reinstalling my OS, and I believe I have everything reinstalled and updated, unfortunately of my dumb ass I happened to forget to copy and backup my fractal perameters!!! *!&@^#%!*&^!!!!!!!!! So i reinstalled the programs, but I lost my works like "vortal green" thats on my page here. time to sart back from scratch...